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Posted - Mar 18 2003 : 3:53:44 PM
Hi,
On the website it says that Chirac could been this Chiren, That may be true but i have read that he runs europe or takes 20 years to control Europe or something... If someone could clear this up for me as Chiren has a referance to 20 years.
Also i have read that Chiren is also called "Young Chiren" and Chirac of france is not a young man can someone clear this up for me.
Thank You
Twilight
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| Conor |
Posted - May 27 2009 : 03:23:25 AM
If you know every date, please share them with us, and how you know these dates. Having a fountain of knowledge as you seem to have would be invaluable to this group.
It must truly be ana amzing coincidence that the comet will hit earth on the winter solstice of 2012 at the same time as the Mayan Long Calenders current epoch ends.
Ozmiach have you been on this site before using a different name as what you are saying sounds very familiar. |
| ozmiach |
Posted - May 27 2009 : 02:58:40 AM
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Originally posted by mm2001
Yes, Conor,
I believe Chirac is Chiren -- I have said so in my book, on my website and a sample chapter from my book on my website. I believed this even when he was still Mayor of Paris before he won the presidency of France in May 1995.
Despite his current anti-war stance, I believe he will lead Europe to victory against Islamic and Russian attacks launched against the West. He will WIN World War III. No other personality today exhibits the almost regal leadership, determinism, and charisma of Jacques Chirac. He is doubtlessly the "Chiren" Nostradamus says will become Monarch of France, King of Rome, and Emperor of Annemarc (Europe) after World War III ends. And when he comes to power in this capacity, Rome will also have a French pope.
I know every date of the coming asteroids and comets and the earliest will come 21 december 2012 but this will hit the east of the earth near china. the others will come in the years 2030, 2033 and 2038 and this asteroid returns at 2040.
one thing is sure there is an ice age coming and the 2012 comet couldn't be this comet because it will hit the earth diagonal and not vertical and that causes less damage and would only make a big explosion when it hits the ground. the one of 2030 goes directly to the earth and could hit the earth vertical. and is much bigger. but the one of 2012 would first circle some days around the earth before hitting us.
so if that comet hits us chiraq could be chiren otherwise not.
ozmiach
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| mm2001 |
Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 5:40:18 PM
Hi Conor,
The pope who will crown Chiren will be "the pope from ancient France." Now I know some Nostradamus commentators try to apply that to John Paul II (who has just been hospitalised in serious condition I am hearing right now on the TV as I write) because Poland was once a part of Charlemagne's French empire, but I think that is quite a bit of a stretch. There are other prophecies by other and older prophets that say the monarch and the pope will both be French.
That could be Jean-Marie Lustiger.
The question is will the French pope (who crowns Chiren) be the next pope or the one after? I don't know the answer. But if he is the one after the next, then the next pope will not reign for very many years, since the French pope must crown Chiren, if he is indeed Chirac (who is not getting any younger), fairly soon -- sometime around 2009 or 2010. Many other past and recent prophets, by the way, say the French monarch will be old, so this applies well to Chirac. The Seer of Waldviertel says this future monarch was a boy in school when Hitler was leader of Germany (which would be about right again for Jacques Chirac). Unfortunately, there are a few old prophets who say he will be young (just to confuse the matter).
Incidentally, I still doubt Malachy is right about there being only two popes after JP2. I see more than two popes who haven't reigned yet in Nostradamus' prophecies.
Elsa, anything is possible. But how would you interpret this:
Quatrain 5.6
To the king the Augur upon the head his hand he will place,
And come to pray for peace in Italy:
To the left hand will the scepter be changed,
From the King will proceed a pacific Emperor.
Sounds like a monarch turned Emperor to me, rather than some sort of EU president or prime minister to the Pope.
"Augur" by the way, is the Pope in his capacity of inaugurating the Emperor - the ceremony I mentioned that was used in the time of Charlemagne and much later the Holy Roman Emperors. Also, Nostradamus mentions a future pope who will have visions and be a prophet ("augur" is another term for prophet).
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
-- William Butler Yeats |
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Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 1:29:15 PM
Is it possible that instead of actually been annointed empirer, Chirac might simply become the power behind the Pope? And in that way control all the powers.
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| Conor |
Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 04:47:20 AM
Mike which Pope do you see crowning Chiren? Obviously not the current one? I doubt it would be the next Pope, so would it be the one after that? Expected to be the greatest Pope before the final Pope-the betrayer?
If it is this visionary Pope I would not be surprised if he was a key part in the reorganisation of Europe under one Monarch.
Another thing, you said about the governments of Britain and Ireland uniting after the war. As an Irishman I cant see that happening especially with the way Northern Ireland continues to be such a contentious issue. Do you have any more info on this?
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| mm2001 |
Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 02:29:51 AM
Chirac could live another ten years or more. His claim to fame, if he is Chiren, is that he is the first King of Europe AFTER WW3 ends and that as leader of France, along with some other EU nations, is instrumental in winning the war.
His reign over Europe is not very long anyway, once he is "crowned." No more than seven years, maybe much less. He will be dead by 2016, most likely.
And I expect WW3 will be over by 2009 or 2010, if not sooner. So his reign might be 2009-2016 or 2010-2014 or something along those lines.
Most of the events discussed in the post immediately above are about things that will happen over a period of 40 years AFTER Chirac is dead. Beginning with Chirac's death, Edward becomes successor because Chirac appointed him as his heir apparent just before he died. Andrew and Peter get their realms shortly after Edward is made second king of Europe. The one event that may happen while Chirac is still alive is the ascension of Charles to the throne of Britain.
The rest regarding Wills and Harry happens after the death of Charles (who I believe will live well into his 80s). The America-UK union happens after Harry's death or abdication and end of the monarchy. The land bridge appears maybe ten years beforehand.
I don't understand your confusion.
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
-- William Butler Yeats |
| jenbar1963 |
Posted - Feb 01 2005 : 01:09:29 AM
Michael,
Probably my only concern regarding Chirac and Edward is that Chirac is not a young man and the way you have states it is over quite a long period of time. Would Chirac not be dead by the time this all comes to pass?
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| mm2001 |
Posted - Jan 31 2005 : 6:17:10 PM
Hi Jen,
Charles will succeed Queen Elizabeth. I realise there has been much talk in recent years about Charles being passed over for a variety of reasons (even at his wish) and William taking the throne. There are even some who believe he will be assassinated and then Wills will become king.
I don't agree with any of this. Charles will be king and for quite some time. I also believe that when Edward is appointed his reign of Europe as Chirac's successor, Andrew and Anne will be elevated to governing posts in parts of Europe as well. Anne will turn it down, however, and give her share of the reign to her son Peter.
If you can believe this, when it comes time for William to inherit the throne of England there will be a faction that will want his brother Harry to reign. A civil war will result. Wills will even live in France and Tunisia for a short time. In the end, the two brothers will resolve their differences. They will be almost as old as Charles is now when this happens. Harry will reign after William dies. He will be the last king of Britain. The monarchy will then be abolished and the governments of Great Britain, Ireland, whatever survives of the USA after WW3 and WW4, and Canada will merge. Scotland will oppose this merger and there will be a short war with the Scots.
There will be a great land ridge that will have risen from the ocean ten years or so before this in the Atlantic that will make it possible for people to traverse between Britain and America, even by walking! I have seen this in a dream.
I expect I'll either be long dead or around 100 by that time since I am 51 now.
Sophie will without question be the "new Diana." Perhaps his reference to "the temple of Artemis" was really a coded way of saying that Diana, whose death he prophesied, would live on again in the form of another woman he did not name: Sophie (we might wish to scour the Centuries in any case just to see if Sophie's name IS there, somewhere).
But I still think a supernatural event involving Diana's apparition has yet to occur. Nostradamus can be very obscure, it is true, but he can also be very direct. I am hard-pressed to figure out who this woman whose spirit of flame rises from her grave and speaks to the multitudes could be if it is NOT Diana. Diana (and the Greek version of Artemis) is the most frequent and glorified woman's name throughout the Centuries.
No question about it: MaudDib was a loony.
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
-- William Butler Yeats |
| jenbar1963 |
Posted - Jan 31 2005 : 12:35:34 AM
Michael,
Interesting thoughts. Maybe you can help on the following:
1. What about Princes William and Harry. William being the successor after Charles?
2. I remember some time ago about the Rose, in which you mentioned that Diana would be heard again - perhaps this may be Sophie. You are right in saying they are very similar, both in personality and looks
Isn't it amazing that one loony can inspire us to remember such things.
jenfromoz |
| mm2001 |
Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 5:55:27 PM
Yes, Conor, I believe Edward, EARL of Wessex (my mistake for calling him "Count" of Wessex) is indeed being groomed for a major role in European politics, as opposed to the largely figurehead royal role of king of Great Britain. It would be two feathers for England's cap to have a king again (Charles) AND have a future EU president (Edward).
However, Nostradamus describes the first monarch of Europe, Chiren, as having the sceptre moved from the left hand to the right after being crowned by the pope. That, of course, doesn't sound like an EU presidential inauguration ceremony, but DOES sound like the official coronation ceremony used when Charlemagne was made emperor and, later, Charles V and the Holy Roman emperors. So, it would appear that Nostradamus envisioned a return to a more traditional imperial rule in future Europe.
It also appears for a hereditary succession of "King of Europe" to occur, there must be a son. The line of French kings always depended on a male heir, females were not considered, whereas in England, females could rule the nation alone as queen. So, the future European empire will initially be founded on the French model (because Chiren will be French and Nosty also says the first European emperor will be a French monarch).
However, Jacques Chirac, who I believe to be Chiren, has no sons, only daughters. That is why he will appoint or support Edward, Earl of Wessex, as his successor.
Yes, the queen is very close to Sophie. And Sophie looks so much like the late Princess Diana they could have been sisters!
Watch both Edward and Sophie. I predict they will both become very popular and that Sophie will replace Diana in the hearts of the people.
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
-- William Butler Yeats |
| Conor |
Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 07:24:53 AM
I wonder is the Queen already preparing her son for such a role. Usually Prince Charles would take spotlight on diplomatic and historical missions, but lately Charles seems to have slipped away and is no longer much in the public eye. Could it be that the queen sees her youngest son as the man to lead Europe? She is particularly close to Sophie Wessex, maybe she is grooming her also!
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| mm2001 |
Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 10:59:11 PM
Hi Elsa,
GOOD thread to resurrect - I almost forgot about it. This is what I like to see on this forum - not only discussion about the latest earthquake or the current war in Iraq (or whether it is a moral war or not), but about the various prophecies themselves and the longer view ahead. There are so many figures Nostradamus predicted about who have yet to appear, I would think that people would be intrigued by it all. More Bible prophecy discussion, too, would be nice (lots of topics to choose from). I even added a topic for Islamic prophecy, for those who are familiar with it.
It would be nice to see this forum hopping like Morgana's was back in 2000 and 2001 before she made people register TWICE: once with Forum.co and then a separate email to her. That's BS.
Anyway, I have always maintained that Prince Edward is Ogmios, the Celtic/Brythonnic successor to Chyren (Chirac). I am not surprised to see them together, I was rather expecting it. You see, Edward will be the 21st Century Winston Churchill and Chirac a mightier-than, pro-Britain Charles DeGaulle. In one quatrain in the post-WW3 period, an older, dying Chirac on his deathbed is surrounded by his friends, including Prince Edward, the French Pope (Jean-Marie Lustiger, perhaps), and the American president (or German chancellor, it all depends on the meaning of the Eagle - maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger or Hillary Clinton?). It is here that Chirac passes on the government of the Empire (EU or other unified post-WW3 European entity) to Prince Edward. Thus, the ancient titled Count of Wessex, with his wife Sophie, shall become the next emperor and empress after the death of the first king of Europe, Jacques Chirac.
As for Putin, I don't see him fitting in with this scenario. He will double-cross Britain, France, Germany, and the West in general (or his successor will). He will either be the leader of Russia who sides with Iran and other countries in a war against Nato/Eu, the US, and pro-Western Muslim states or he will be overthrown in a revolution or not run in the next election in 2008 and his successor will prosecute the terrible war yet to come. Vladimir Zhirinovsky still must be watched out for. He has his sites on 2008 and there are fewer in the political field to oppose this raving clown (Hitler and Mussolini were also regarded as posturing buffoons before they proved to be otherwise). By 2008, Zhirinovsky will have been on the political scene in Russia (1993-2008) as long as Hitler was in Germany in 1933 (1918-1933).
Also, by the way, which "site" do you mean? This forum or my website, Nostradamus and the New Prophecy Almanacs? Yes, I do discuss all three men in different parts of my website.
Thanks for bringing up the fact that Jacques Chirac and Prince Edward were seated together. Its ort of supports my theory that they will be fast friends and close allies during the coming war in Europe.
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
-- William Butler Yeats |
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Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 2:07:58 PM
I was wondering if anyone watched the coverage of the 60th commemoration of the Auschwitz liberation. It was interesting in that HRH Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex, Chirac and Putin sat next to each other in the front row during the events.
Aren't all three of these men mentioned in connection with each other in this site?
Edited by - Elsa on Jan 27 2005 2:09:46 PM |
| Conor |
Posted - Mar 31 2003 : 05:38:07 AM
How interesting, when confronted with a reasoned explanation from multiple sources quoted by Mike, the exalted MaudDib has declared that he is leaving us beacuse his Higher Information bropker deems it so.
Ha ha. Well I nor anyone on this site ever proclaimed to be divinely gifted. I will always heed the bible and its warnings of such. I guess MaudDib hasn't.
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Posted - Mar 29 2003 : 10:29:30 AM
there is no way to argue with you or try to counter, for thats not why i'm here. i posted what i was told to post. if you don't believe then it's all good.. waith till this summer, it will be the "summer of the ufo's"..when this happens maybe you will remember this post..
Goodbye all and God Bless.
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