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| Darkcomet |
Posted - Feb 19 2008 : 04:56:51 AM
This is not looking good, I hope this is nothing, but if all that is happening right now escalates this could be part of the build up to WWIII.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/russia_threatens123.html
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| pacino |
Posted - Aug 05 2009 : 7:45:54 PM
Something we havent seen ... back to the COLD WAR, pretty alarming I would say. I proof that WWIII is on the brink (no later then 2010 IMO):
Two Russian Nuclear Submarines Make USA Shake With Fear
Two Russian nuclear submarines have been patrolling the USA’s East Coast during the recent several days, The New York Times wrote. One of the submarines was detected Tuesday about 200 miles off the US coast, anonymous sources at the Pentagon said.
Continued... http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/05-08-2009/108624-submarines-0
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| thomsop |
Posted - Oct 21 2008 : 4:13:31 PM
I had similar thoughts DC, especially when Georgia went on the 'offensive' with South Ossetia and Russia went in to 'defend'.
All we get though is what is reported in the news, and I think there's lots of games being played in the background by both sides. Kinda hard to tell who's right or wrong as both side like to make out they're the good guys. We'll probably never know for sure, that's my feeling. |
| Darkcomet |
Posted - Oct 16 2008 : 04:46:07 AM
I know before in previous post's I have used the term that Russia is gearing up for war. But what if using this term is wrong? What if Russia is not preparing to start a war or be the aggressor? But is preparing to defend itself from some force or another?
The article on Mike's overview and update's page give's indication to this being the case. It is President Dmitri Medvedev's use of word's which caught my attention.
"We will continue to develop new weapon systems, but we will also continue to test the ones we already have," Medvedev says.
- "Its efficiency has been proven duriing time. Our shield is working fine."
He is addressing this issue on the apperance that this is NOT about attack - but it is really about DEFENCE.
This make's me ask. Is Russia really making preparation's to defend itself from something more than war with Nato or any country for that matter?
If you tremble indignation
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then you are a comrade of mine.
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| Conor |
Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 1:42:32 PM
Indeed! I have been keeping an eye on the completely vehemently US hating Hugo Chavez and Venezuela! Definitely a liability for the US I think. Russias fleet travelling across the Atlantic on an invitation is not good! |
| Darkcomet |
Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 07:47:06 AM
Russia sends warships on military exercise in America's 'backyard' as the new Cold War intensifies.
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1059627/Russia-sends-warships-military-exercise-Americas-backyard-new-Cold-War-intensifies.html?ITO=1490
If you tremble indignation
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| mm2001 |
Posted - Sep 13 2008 : 11:59:54 PM
Hi Pacino,
I realise you are looking at the bigger picture concerning Syria and Russia preparing the Gog/Magog alliance, but I would point your attention towards the Syrian invasion of greater Tripoli villages in northern Lebanon.
This could well be the opening act for several other events, one of them a prediction of mine you have featured on your site:
Prime Minister of Lebanon Fouad Siniora Assassinated – [June 2008]
It is a few months late, but I would not be too surprised to see this happen.
Also, behind the scenes, are the machinations of Bashar al-Assad's uncle, Rifaat al-Assad. Rifaat would like to join Lebanon to Syria and also overthow his nephew Bashar. I believe certain West European nations, such as France (despite Sarkozy's visit with Bashar), and also the United States would love to install Rifaat al-Assad as their "man" in the Middle East ... and they would do it under the blind of coup and turmoil in both Lebanon and Syria. Once in power, Mubarak of Egypt would be assassinated, and then Rifaat could begin the consolidation of the Levant Arab states into a true United Arab Republic, the dream Nasser could never fully realise.
As head of this union he could then play the role of peacemaker and sign a peace agreement, a covenant, with Israel, pledging to defend it against all threats in the region. This would then give the West the leverage needed to use Assad's UAR to bring about a final solution in Iraq and then annex (absorb) it into the new UAR. This would effectively isolate Saudi Arabia and Iran, the two behemoths in control of most of the Middle East oil. The Arabians would then have to choose between a fundamentalist state with ties to the Afghan Taliban and Al Qaeda or remain friends and trading partners with The West. The ultimate goal would be to effectively isolate Iran politically, economically, religiously, and militarily.
I have little doubt that Rifaat will be installed. The question is whether it will be before World War III can happen or after it has been waged.
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| pacino |
Posted - Sep 13 2008 : 2:19:16 PM
Syrian commandos invade 7 Greater Tripoli villages of N. Lebanon
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5579
Syria, Russia Strengthen Naval Cooperation
http://www.almanar.com.lb/newssite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=56551&language=en |
| pacino |
Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 8:03:38 PM
Dutch sabotage agent recalled from Iran over “impending” US attack - report
DEBKAfile Special Report
August 30, 2008, 5:36 PM (GMT+02:00)
A Dutch AIVD Secret Service ultra-secret operation underway in Iran in recent years has been halted and an agent recalled in view of “impending US plans to attack Iran,” within weeks, writes Joost de Haas, known for his good intelligence contacts, in the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf.
The AIVD operation aimed to infiltrate and sabotage the weapons [and nuclear] industry in the Islamic Republic.
According to intelligence sources in the Netherlands, the US [or Israel] was expected to make a decision within weeks to attack nuclear plants with unmanned aircraft, used to avoid risking the lives of air crews and warplanes.
DEBKAfile’s military sources report this would be the first time drones operated by remote control were used against major strategic targets, necessary in Israel’s case to hold its air fleet and flight crews ready to defend the country against reprisal from Iran’s allies. Syria and the Lebanese Hizballah have stockpiled thousands of rockets for this purpose.
The Iranian targets to be bombed would include also military installations brought to light partly by the Dutch espionage operation, described by De Telegraaf as extremely successful. “One of the agents was able to infiltrate the Iranian industry” and for years shared information with the American CIA. “Various supplies could also be sabotaged and stopped. These were parts for missiles and launching equipment.”
According to DEBKAfile’s sources, the expectation disclosed by the Dutch newspaper would explain the fresh spate of threats from Iran.
Thursday, Aug. 28, Iranian sources told the London-based Arabic al Quds that Tehran had recently transferred to Hizballah new long-range rockets capable of hitting every inch of Israeli soil with great accuracy.
They were to be fired if Israel or the United States attacked Iran.
Dep. Chief of General Staff Masus Jazairi said Saturday, Aug. 30, that any attack on Iran would mean the beginning of a new world war. He said the “greed of the US and Zionists” is gradually leading the world to collapse as demonstrated in Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan and the Caucasus.
DEBKAfile’s Iran sources report a shakeup is in progress in the Islamic Republic’s top military command.
Amir (Maj. Gen.) Seyed Abdollrahim Mousavi was named acting chief of staff
of the armed forces – a new post created as backup in case the army chief comes to harm in combat.
Amir Mohamad Hosseyn Dadras becomes deputy chief of staff for coordination.
Amir Reza Pourdastan is the new commander of the army’s ground corps.
Original article here: http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5544
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| Conor |
Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 06:06:16 AM
Hi Joan,
We respect all opinions here as long as they are reasoned out well. I liked your opinion actually as you did create a reasonable argument.
One thing I would like to point out, you think we are all Pro-American here, I can honestly say I dont think we are, I think we are Pro-Earth! As in we are concerned with the wlfare of everyone on this planet and issues such as the South Ossetia troubles will affect everyone potentially if a war breaks out on an international scale.
I am very troubled by all this. Russia claims to be a democratic nation when it is clearly just a reincarnation of the communist state. Do democratically elected governments grab land from other nations and assimilate them into their own nation against the will of the entire world?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4635843.ece
Russia is planning to absorb South Ossetia which is a province of Georgia into Russia!
Being from Ireland I know all about what happens when one country takes over another, or witholds possession of a province, it only leads to war, terrorism, death and destruction.
I agree that Georgis original actions were unwarranted and stupid, but Russias actions are a disgrace and NATOs actions are bordering on very very dangerous!! |
| mm2001 |
Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 9:55:36 PM
Oh, please.
One could write a book about the duplicitous, back-stabbing, double-dealing Russian Federation and its previous incarnation, the Soviet Empire, but that would be way too time-consuming.
OF COURSE the missiles in Poland are intended to protect Europe and, to some smaller extent, the United States against RUSSIA's VAST NUCLEAR ARSENAL and not some embryonic threat from Iran or North Korea of a few crude low-yield nuclear warheads loaded on to ballistic missiles a few notches higher in sophistication than a Saddam-era Iraqi SCUD. It would require an intelligence somewhat lower than shrub's not to realise that. Yet even Russia realises this missile defence system would be virtually useless against a massive attack by them. Also, let's not forget that well over a month before this decision to deploy was made official, Russia was sending missiles and bombers to Venezuela and Cuba and, according to that grinning little tyrant Hugo Chavez, still are. What are THEY for? To make Central America secure from a US nuclear attack??? *LOL* Of course not, they are in place so the Russian Empire (yes, South Ossetia has now officially been annexed as part of Russia) can encircle the USA with its nuclear arsenal.
Of course many people have forgotten about that because they have been blindslided by this pathetic Russian war of annexation, using Chechnya war tactics to beat up on an independent state in Transcaucasia (God, I wish people would stop calling Georgia a Caucasus state, it is one of three nations that make up the lower region known as Transcaucasia which, along with Turkey, links Russia and Europe to the Middle East and Central Asia). The strategic importance of Transcaucasia to Moscow is two-fold: it brings them closer to two major oil sources: the Caspian Sea oil and the larger, greatly coveted Middle East oil supply in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian peninsula.
But enough of this. A powerful nation with a huge nuclear arsenal that allows a man like Vladimir Zhirinovsky to be Head of the Duma (for life it would seem), a man who has seriously proposed such actions as irradiating Germany and turning the Baltics into a sea of glass, is a country that cannot be seriously TRUSTED by any Western nation.
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
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| KAT |
Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 3:42:48 PM
Hi Joan,
I agree with almost everything you have said, though I don't nessasaraly agree with the view that this site is pro neocon,pro american domination ( but perhaps I am misinterpreting your post and you just mean this topic ).
I think it is very easy to fall in to a pro west stand-point just because you ( I ) live there, vested interests should not be overlooked when examining what is going on.
Knowing the human race as you do,
Why would you not believe in conspiracy theories..? :K.T. |
| Joan |
Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 1:06:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Darkcomet
Russia has tested certain countries Airforce response times, pushed it's neighbouring boarder's and now is testing Navel response's. Russia is gearing for war. No suprise Medvedev will aim for talk's with the east.
Interesting article to read.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/s0462_8_25.asp
I do not post here at all really, mostly for the reason to avoid argument because I do not agree with the viewpoint that is currently held both on the mainpage and on these forums regarding this Georgian crisis.
But the link to the article you posted has to be the most biased, opiniated, pro neocon, pro US domination of the entire world, piece of crap I have read in a long time. He does not state any facts, only opinions and very biased ones at that. The only thing I will give him credit for is mentioning the energy corridor through Georgia, which is indeed a large part of this crisis and which is the thing that the west (correctly) is freaking out on. Even though they are disguising it as 'Russian aggression' rethoric.
A few things I would like to point out that is not widely known due to it not being reported in the western media:
- Georgia has been armed by the US and Israel for the last few years
- Evidence of US citizens fighting along the Georgian troops has been found:
http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29636
- Neither Russia nor Georgia has complied to the five point Sarkozy peace agreement of withdrawing troops to the positions they held on August 6th
- The trans-Georgian oil pipeline was to be build through a valley bordering Abkhazia. With their independence declared, this will now not be possible anymore, which is almost solely the reason of all this fuss
- Building work on the US missile defense plan in Poland had already started a few months ago, estimate is now that the intereceptor missiles will be online in 2009, the promised Patriots will be in Poland before the end of 2008. The very weak excuse of protecting against missiles from Iran does not hold. First: the base is situated in the almost extreme north of Poland (the worst possible location in Europe for intercepting missiles, as that must be done in the early stages of launch). Second: Iran doesn't even have the technology to fire a missile for more than 2000km, that won't even reach large parts of Turkey, let alone the rest of Europe.
Now like I said in my first post here: There is no reason to take me up on my words, but at least do the right thing and research some of these things on your own. I am not saying that Russia has it all right, but I am saying that you must be very carefull these days on what is written by the media (both Western and Russian of course). Unarguably, Both sides are gearing up their rethoric and military capability though. So it could become quite hairy.
One more thing to note in response to the post I quoted where it says Russia is gearing for war: NATO is currently trying to build up a fleet of over 15 warships in the Black Sea. Some of these (like the USS McFaul) do have Tomahawk capability with a possible nuclear load. NATO warships have no mandate in the Black Sea, there is actually an agreement that severely limits the amount of foreign NATO warships in the Black Sea, which NATO is currently ignoring. And the excuse of delivering aid should not fool anyone these days (noticed how all the aid being delivered by the US coast guard cutter Dallas was conveniently wrapped in black plastic?). From an impartial viewpoint, it looks more like NATO who is preparing a strike fleet in the Black Sea for war. Turkey has caught on to this and is now refusing anymore NATO ships access to the Black Sea.
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| Darkcomet |
Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 04:57:17 AM
Russia has tested certain countries Airforce response times, pushed it's neighbouring boarder's and now is testing Navel response's. Russia is gearing for war. No suprise Medvedev will aim for talk's with the east.
Interesting article to read.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/s0462_8_25.asp
If you tremble indignation
at every injustice
then you are a comrade of mine.
- Ernesto Che Guevara -
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| Darkcomet |
Posted - Aug 20 2008 : 08:23:43 AM
There is no shortage of report's in the press on what Russia is doing.
It seem's most likely this all started with that attack on the Russian peace keeping force's and not the Russian army invading Georgia first, though who can actually tell what is the truth in all of this conflict. To be honest it no longer matter's, the USA are charging ahead with a plan that can only spell trouble. I agree that Russia has to defend itself, it cannot be weak or the USA will pounce all over it. From this point of view I see how Russia is only doing what it feel's right. However I am sure there is more going on here than we are being told.
Russia want's control of Europe's Gas & Oil and USA want's to slap missile bases to keep the appearance of NATO. This could turn into a bitter war, but just as easy it could be the hope of a new way for peace.
Europe should be looking to ease both the USA and Russia into a comprimise. Disband the NATO force's and begin a new coalition which represent's it's global position. One where it could bring some sort of balance to USA and Russia, if Europe is important to both countries, they will have to listen.
Of course I can't see either USA or Russia backing down.
If you tremble indignation
at every injustice
then you are a comrade of mine.
- Ernesto Che Guevara -
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| Conor |
Posted - Aug 18 2008 : 03:19:26 AM
Now the Ukraine are offering the US and the EU access to their radar system in defiance of their Russian neighbours.
It is definitely hotting up there! |
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