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Darkcomet
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Posted - Mar 08 2009 :  08:03:08 AM  Show Profile Send Darkcomet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BATTLE ON

THE KING 'V' THE QUEEN




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Darkcomet
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Posted - Jul 06 2009 :  04:18:02 AM  Show Profile Send Darkcomet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For those who originally read my post above, the picture was of Michael Jackson. Now..I'm not usually one to get freaked out, but that comment Madonna made last year about "On the 29th move the Queen will topple the King." rang true.



Now she says this!



LONG LIVE THE KING! Is she jumping on the bandwagon of death????


Madonna better watch out though, or sweet intentions just might leave a bitter taste in her mouth!



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Conor
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Posted - Jul 06 2009 :  06:01:01 AM  Show Profile Send Conor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She originally said that at each of the Sticky and Sweet Concerts. I saw it at Cardiff months ago. I was surprised she changed it at the weekend. But then again not massively surprised either.
Having gone to a few of her concerts, her self aggranised messiah like conceit is growing bigger with every concert. I used to like the music but now its just become a spectacle for her vanity. Definitely Babylon-esque!
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Posted - Jul 16 2009 :  3:01:54 PM  Show Profile Send Darkcomet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One Dead As Madonna Concert Stage Collapses



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It comes back to haunt her!

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Conor
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Posted - Jun 07 2011 :  09:15:44 AM  Show Profile Send Conor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All,
I had an interesting thought over the weekend. Has anyone given credence to Lady Gaga being the Whore of Babylon?

Now first of all I should say that I am a fan of her music and find her quite amusing and very much in touch with her fans.... so if that means I am in thrall to the whore of babylon so be it.... but I was just thinking about her in the context of her as a phenomonen.

She has had close to a billion views of her videos on youtube.... that is a significant portion of the planets populace receiving her message.

She has millions of followers on facebook and twitter.... yet another way for her to communicate with the masses.

She has made nearly 100 million dollars in three years.... that is an astronomical amount for a new star.... it took Britney Spears nearly 10 years to amass the same amount.

Lady Gaga's self styled name denotes nobility where there is none. She is an american of italian and irish descent from New York the worlds greatest and wounded city.

Her music is very much about self expression, denouncing organised religion and self belief for many marginalised in society.

She has tattoos all down the left hand side of her body, some in cyrillic, some in aramaic, some in english, some in chinese, some in hieroglyphs.

She calls her fans Little Monsters and they call her The Mother Monster..... symbolic of a beast perhaps?

She likes to push boundaries, the Catholic Church has derided her and banned some of her music and some of her videos. In some of her videos she has simulated sex as a nun, murdered people who wronged her and even innocent people alongside, she has been in jail in her videos, she has transformed from an egg into a horned humanoid..... all of these are hugely symbolic. She has also portrayed herself as Mary Magdalene in love with both Jesus and Judas in one of her latest videos. And her most recent music release was called The Edge of Glory.

So I was just wondering what do people think about her? Could she be the Whore of Bablyon? If you were receiving visions 2000 years ago of Lady Gaga, what would you make of her? Would she be almost demonic in her ever changing appearances and swaying of the masses?
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Posted - Jun 07 2011 :  8:35:12 PM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe I'm just to old Conor, I look at Madonna and Lady gaga and just laugh!

Don't get me wrong, I like their music on occasion, and would likely even hum along when it comes on the radio in the truck if its a good tune BUT, I don't as a rule watch multi media video type presentations where they dress up and gyrate and all the stuff that seems to suck the kids in these days.

Thats the beauty of good ol radio in the truck - you don't have to watch the crap that seems obligatory these days to sell a song, most of it is inane rubbish in the video clips (so i deliberately don't watch it!).

The good ol radio is a great evener of the musicians - it comes back to the tune and can they sing - which evens out the playing field a lot - some kid with a guitar who can sing can do just as well on Radio and the mega stars with their DVD's video clips etc - all he/she has to be able to do is play an instrument - carry a tune and be able to sing!

Music SHOULD be about youth portraying messages important to them thru their MUSIC, the whole video clips thing to ME at least is meaningless - I just shut it off - thats the beauty of the remote control on the TV - I don't have to watch crap I don't like I just switch it off and video clips of the Madonnas and Lady Gagas etc get the change channel button!

Now TV channels monitor the ratings - how many people are watching - so by switching channels anytime that crap comes on I'm sending a message to the TV stations and their advertisers thru the ratings, by switching to another channel.

This is a case where - the video clip is actually penalizing the artist, because Vid clips I don't like actually stop me listening to songs that on a radio with no video media i might listentoo or even like. These impressions influience what tunes I might bye online and download to the Ipod i.e. they have a diorect impact on the artists sales - produce some crap video clip and lose sales of a song that might otherwise go viral on the radio.

Maybe I'm different to the kids of today - I just don't let the mass media mess with my mind thru subliminal imaging etc I vote with my remote control switch and there vid clips do influence my music buying habits.

I guess that makes me an old phart (heck as a kid i played 78 records)!

Now as to whether musicians (vid clip or not) are leaders of the free world like the whore of Babylon?.

Clearly the message was about Rome the city that sits on 7 hills and her future, and nothing to do with a media personality / musical performer.

These performers might make a lot of $ BUT they don't exercise temporal power, they don't pass legislation (how nations speak), nor dothey have power to enforce such legislation (politics) to affect the lives of people.

What they CAN do is influence public opinion, bye expressing ideas or beliefs or by their message, and that might translate into changed morals values that get reflected eventually in the political climate & then hence legislation!

I just don't see then having direct affect, but as stated I'm an old phart maybe the kids of today are more affected in a direct sense than us old pharts!

An example might be the musicians influence on kids thru peer pressure!

If the vids are displaying drug culture and popularizing it, then yes - maybe they are affecting the kids behavior in a direct way and there's no doubt that they likely do affect impressionable kids morals values and also encourage drug addictions etc, and in that respect i guess there's an element of them possibly being evil in some way.

Whether they are takingh whole nations into apostasy?

I dunno i personally can't see it....but I've been wrong before.

I've been in trouble here once before for suggesting that Mike shouldn't concentrate on the media performers in his prophecy's web site, and that it should rather be a prophetic site about political actions and nation states etc and what they do via legislation (to make war).

You can probably tell from my remote control comments about the TV and switching stations that I skip over anything to do with celebrity's on Mikes web site - it just doesn't interest ME personally, BUT having 3 grown kids of my own now (all in their 20's) its clear that the younger generation DO pay close attention to the popular mass media culture, and I frequently here them quoting popular comedy performers (Carl Baron and others) so obviously if a web sites to have broad appeal across the age demographic then it needs to consider media performers, which makes your question quite valid, for that age group.

For us ol Pharts I guess we just speed read past it looking for the more political stuff...

It's a bugger getting old let me tell you!
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mm2001
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Posted - Jun 07 2011 :  9:26:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit mm2001's Homepage Send mm2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My own opinion is she is being groomed by the PTB to take Madonna's place as the Whore of Babylon, to be her successor as it were (maybe I have already said this before?). Thus, all the Illuminati/Masonic symbology ... they spent a lot of time, training, and educating to make her climb to the position she is presently in as fast as they could possibly do it. Clearly they are worried Madonna is getting slack and possibly too old to play the role when the time comes to play it to the hilt. I have no doubt these people always have a backup plan ... they have failed so many times in the past, but they will always keep on trying until they eventually get it right. For them a failed 18-year plan is merely an excuse to work out a new 18-year plan.

Lady Gaga has evoked more serious comparisons with the Whore of Babylon image: dressing like the "evil Maria" android in the old silent classic Metropolis (who was unquestionably intended to be a "Whore of Babylon" figure); near-naked crowd-surfing in Ohio, evoking the image of the prostitute the French revolutionary mob carried aloft naked through the streets of Paris in 1793 and placed on a high altar at Notredame cathedral and worshipped for the next 14 months as "The Goddess of Reason" (this was also played out in Metropolis); by playing Mary Magdalene (who was a whore) in the video Judas, but a Mary in love with both Jesus and Judas, betraying one for the other, she is playing the ultimate faithless whore (skimply dressed in the opening scenes in the trademark colours of the WOB: purple and scarlet). One can go on and on ...

However, she still plays the hermaphrodite card ... still leaves people wondering if she is a 'he' or a 'she'? This is not a typical characteristic of the "Whore of Babylon" at all.

Also, just as Lady Gaga can be very seductive and sexy as a blonde bimbo type, skimpily dressed, she can also be quite repulsive and horrible. When she plays the Mother Monster part, she is no longer seductive ... she becomes physically repulsive and deadens all thoughts concerning sex.

Indeed, she has even preached abstinence, refraining from sex herself. This is NOT behaviour that is typical of the "Whore of Babylon."

She has an entirely different role to play. Nostradamus has a handle on what that is, since you won't find it in the Bible.

I have discussed some of this on my website, but there will be more forthcoming in the very near future ...

I will say this much (and it is more than I intended here): if Madonna is to be the modern incarnation in flesh of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, and, like the mortal woman Semiramis who claimed to be Ishtar in those times, demands to be worshipped as a goddess, then Lady Gaga must play the hermaphrodite or androgyne called by the name Asu-shu-namir. This is a very powerful role in and of itself ... for Madonna, who lately seems to be dead, needs to be quickened soon, and Lady Gaga may be the one to do this as the incarnation of Asu-shu-namir.

But yes, should an emergency warrant it, Lady Gaga could become the "whore of Babylon" ... she will have to dump the androgyne/Mother Monster image to accomplish this, I would think.

But, for all you down under folks, there is another great substitute for Madonna as the highly seductive WOB, and she knows her symbols well too: Kylie Minogue!

"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"

-- William Butler Yeats
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Posted - Jun 08 2011 :  03:33:25 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ohh God no - not the singin budgie!

Please!

Many of us wonder how the hell she ever became so popular - her voice is monotone and all her songs sound the same - she is definitely a pop culture idol more than she is an accomplished singer in her own right.

She was a B grade actress at best from childhood, in the TV soap opera neighbors, and somehow managed to turn that exposure into the corporate music entity she is today!

I dunno - again I'm showing my age I guess - but women singers with a strong voice always impressed me they had a quality and strength to their voice where you stopped in your tracks and said - "wow, that woman's got a set of lungs and can sin" - wheres Kylie always reminded us of the way our Budgerigar parrot sits in its cage in the corner and kinda chirps in the same monotone voice all day driving you nutso.

Hence her nick name down under as the singin budgie!

Kinda tough to imagine a budgerigar parrot as the whore of Babylon - it requires deleting one mind picture and substituting another!

Besides Kylie's so skinny, imagining her as a whore's kinda tough - she looks like one good root and she'd snap in half! (oops shouldn't said it but you all KNOW I was thinkin' it!)

Lets face it, she's so skinny shed have to run around in the shower to get wet!

You have a ways to go yet Mike to convince me of Kylie as the Whore of Babylon I'm afraid Mike - but a nice try!
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Conor
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Posted - Jun 08 2011 :  05:38:06 AM  Show Profile Send Conor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL I too doubt Kylie could be the Whore of Babylon!!!!!
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Posted - Jun 09 2011 :  07:37:02 AM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know that it may sound nuts, but, has anyone considered Cristina Kirchner, Argentina's president, as the whore of Babylon? I know too little about her, but the people from Argentina I'm still in contact with, consider her corrupted, letting the famine, crime and corruption spread amongst the people while she spends the nation's money to buy expensive clothing and jewelery for herself. She is selling to out of the country firms all national tresures, both in natural resourses (mining, oil, land) and tourism plases like national parks and so on. She was elected president after her husband (Nestor Kirchner, now dead) finished his precidency, (the queenn toppled the king?). Her name means Christian and she lived in and was a senator and deputy for the province of Santa Cruz (Saint Cross).
Another thing, Argentina has a Mesopotamia of her own, it's the area on the northeast formed by the provinces of Misiones, Corrientes and Entre Rios that are sorrounded by two great revers: Parana to the west and Uruguay to the east. (The name Entre Rios means between rivers, Sounds familiar?)
Argantina's mayority are roman catholics, actually, you must be catholic to be elected president.
See where I'm going to?

Mariana Judit
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mm2001
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Posted - Jun 10 2011 :  6:00:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit mm2001's Homepage Send mm2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Mariana,

Over the last four or five years I have been making a distinction between the "Whore of Babylon" female who appears in Revelation 17 and the "Queen" of "Babylon the great" who appears in Revelation 18. Both are facets of the Whore of Babylon, and as such, are two different personalities.

I believe Madonna is the WOB of Rev 17 ... or can be ... she is at the centre of the new or coming religious, cultural, and moral (or anti-moral) global system. (New if you think this system is already here and in place, coming if you think it still needs some development and/or tweaking).

The WOB of Rev 18, on the other hand, is the political head of the world's greatest trading nation and economic hub and will be counted among the leading global rulers. She is a future President of the United States, in other words.

Cristina Kirchner, therefore, is a TYPE of this woman. And the historical precedent that was set for her great power in Argentina was none other than Eva "Evita" Peron. However, Argentina can not currently be considered "Babylon the great" (the greatest trading nation in the world and hub of the world of economics and finance).

So, we look to 2012 and beyond and a female who will become US president. That could be Sarah Palin, but there are other contenders ...

"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"

-- William Butler Yeats
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Posted - Jun 10 2011 :  11:47:22 PM  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mike I think I a read a media article in recent days that Hillary Clinton wants to be head of the EU or the IMF or something? - maybe THAT would make her a potential WOB contender in the future maybe?

Is it just me, or does anyone else Like Sarah Palin?

She appears to be a straight talkin', straight shootin' soccer mum type - whats wrong with that?.

Couldn't the USA right now do with someone with some credibility to lead them and maybe some old school core values system?

Maybe I'm missing something that everyone else gets?
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Conor
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 :  04:37:36 AM  Show Profile Send Conor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the US should always have a leader that is intelligent and understands the whole world around them, not just what is contained in the US.

Sarah Palin displays no intelligence as far as I can see, only cunning and a lust for power. In a country where the founding fathers enshrined the separation of church and state in the constitution, I think a conservative ultra religious individual such as Sarah Palin is nowhere near what the founding fathers envisioned.

The President of the US should also be able to see that that the US is the leader of the free world, but it is not the only country that matters, and that the world does not revolve around the US. I reckon if you asked Sarah Palin anything about the rest of the planet she wouldnt have a clue. The world needs the US, but the US cannot survive without its friends and neighbours.

While I prefer the democrats, the only contender on the republican side I would have respect for as a statesman with intelligence and experience is Romney. While I am an Obama supporter, I think it will end up a close race between Romney and him.
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Darkcomet
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Posted - Jun 16 2011 :  06:08:37 AM  Show Profile Send Darkcomet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have dealt with magic in my life. I have tried many religions and found each one lacking in something.

I have said nothing of this before, even though I have pointed it out in the past.

But I have my suspicions about Madonna and what she did concerning the 29th move. And here is where I will be bold. I think she has been messing with a dark majic that accidentally resulted in the death of Michael Jackson. Now...I am not accusing her of anything other than making a mistake, it is up to any of you to make your own conclusions. But I think she is scared of what she did. This would explain why she has gone awfully quite these days, and why she is focusing so much on abdication.

Mike....I know you know more than you are letting on.

Madonna is always after something.

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Conor
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Posted - Jun 21 2011 :  07:51:03 AM  Show Profile Send Conor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well you are right about one thing..... she has been very very quiet after Michael Jacksons death.
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