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Conor
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 Posted - Dec 14 2005 : 04:32:11 AM
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Does anyone else think that the Iranian President -Mahmoud Ahmadinejad want a war in the Middle East, his continued hatred and inflammatroy statements about Israel are unbelievable!
This is what the BBC had to say about his latest comment.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has courted further controversy by explicitly calling the Nazi Holocaust of European Jewry a "myth".
"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets," he said in a live television broadcast.
Mr Ahmadinejad called for Europe, the US or Canada to create a Jewish state there, instead of the Middle East.
Israel swiftly denounced the president's comments.
"We hope these extremist comments by the Iranian president will make the international community open its eyes and abandon any illusions about this regime," Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev told AFP news agency.
Mr Ahmadinejad's latest declaration reiterates comments he made last week in which he said he did not accept six million Jews were killed by the Nazis, remarks which were widely condemned.
The president also sparked international outrage in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map".
I personally think he is deranged and paranoid about Israel completely and he is definitely going to incite a war if he doesnt back down on his radical views!
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mm2001
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Posted - Dec 15 2005 : 12:01:38 AM
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I have been awaiting the arrival of this man for 20 years, dreading he would appear in the 1990s.
Now he is here. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (or Ahmadi Nejad) is no one less than "the Third Antichrist."
I always believed this person would arise in Persia (Iran). This is what Nostradamus and the prophet Daniel have both warned.
And remember, Iran has a military defence pact with RUSSIA! Whoever wars with Iran will have Russia for an enemy. It is a very strong alliance -- stronger than the alliance between Israel and Turkey.
If Israel or the United States do not start a war with Iran, Ahmadinejad will start a war of his own. You can count on it.
Welcome to World War III.
"Cast a cold eye
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Horseman, pass by!"
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Posted - Dec 19 2005 : 02:25:58 AM
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Actually, I am in aggreement with Mike here. I do think he wants a war. And, as depressing as that sounds, it appears to be part of his own twisted apocalyptic thinking. I saw this article on a website that has commented on the Iranian president: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009250.php . (The article is interesting, but if you're easily offended you may wish to pass on the comments section.) This man is actually looking to create chaos and disorder, because it is the precursor to the appearance of the 12th Imam, according to a certain Shiite sect in Iran. 
Mike, any ideas of what might happen next? Is he just trying to bait Israel and the U.S.? Or, do you think Iran is ready to make a first strike? I hope it is neither. That's the last thing our world needs at this time. |
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mm2001
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Posted - Dec 21 2005 : 01:01:32 AM
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Hi Paula,
All I know, providing he is the person I (and we) believe him to be, which is very likely, is that he will one day declare war on Europe. The EU, I would assume, he will declare war against, although it may also be a declaration of war against Nato as well. In the process, he will also war with, and conquer, all pro-Western Arab and Muslim states in the Middle East and North Africa.
He may conquer Israel at this time, or Israel will already be defeated beforehand in a seperate conflict.
He will also go to war with Turkey.
Who starts the Turko-Iranian war is uncertain. This may be Ahmadinejad's opening move against Europe, to drive through to the Balkans. Or it may be a separate war that precedes the declaration of war against Europe.
Also unknown is whether the US or Israel will attack Iran first with air strikes. I think that it is logical one or the other will. This is the point where Israel may be knocked out of the running, but not until Syria is destroyed by Israeli nukes first. If Israel prevails, she will be conquered along with the pro-Western Arab states that Iran and its allies will attack and conquer during its attack on Europe. Ironically, nations like Egypt, Jordan, and Turkey will be fighting not only for their own existence, but for the existence of Israel in the final battles of the Middle East.
I also believe that Ahmadinejad will have to wear out the US before going after Europe. He won't accomplish this alone; he will have allies, one of them Russia.
Also, it is quite unlikely that Ahmadinejad will start a war with the EU without powerful military allies. A few other Muslim nations and a bunch of terrorists won't be enough for such a major undertaking.
It is fact that Russia and Iran have a mutual defence pact: if one is attacked, the other will come to its defence.
For all of Russia's talk about getting the terrorists, Moscow has never gone further afield in doing so than to attack the Chechens. Despite all promises to the US to join the war on terror (Al Qaeda), Russia has done nothing.
Russia is duplicitious in its terrorism policy. It openly states its paranoia of terrorists attacking her in her own backyard, yet she supports the most powerful and dangerous terrorist state in the world (Iran) by supplying it with money, conventional weapons and parts, nuclear technology and technical advisors, and even weapons of mass destruction (nuclear warheads). And it vows to defend Iran in any war.
Nostradamus prophesies both Russia and Iran will lead a vast army against Europe. They will do it in their own respective spheres: Russia will attack from the north, northeast, and east, and Iran and her Muslim allies from the south and southeast.
Daniel never mentions Russia directly when he says the King of Persia will decalre war on the West. But in chapter 8, he says Persia and Media will be allies in this war. Part of what was once the ancient Media empire today lies in southern Russia and parts of the former Soviet Union. So this implies Russia and certain former Soviet states in the Transcaucasus region, along with some Central Asian states named by Nostradamus (such as Turkmenistan), will be allied with Persia (Iran).
I do not expect this great declaration of war against Europe to occur until 2008 or 2009. A number of other developments must yet take place first.
Most prophecy says America will not actively be on Europe's side when this happens because she will be overwhelmed by natural catastrophes at home and losses elsewhere from other wars (China? Noth Korea? Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia?).
However, when Russia moves on Germany and France, the US will launch nuclear missiles against the advancing Eastern armies. Europe will meantime let loose with a terrible "yellow dust" that blackens and eats away at all flesh it comes into contact with.
Russia will sustain unimaginable losses and retreat. Then she will start a nuclear war with the US, exchanges will escalate, and then total nuclear war for both. The Islamic army will continue to fight in southern Europe, however.
The war in the south (Italy, Malta, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, the Balearics, Spain, France, Portugal, Gibralter) may well continue until as late as 2014, with Italy being the last country to be liberated.
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Posted - Dec 27 2005 : 04:38:35 AM
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Hi every body
I am frim Iran.
I agree with you,We iranian ppl hate ahmadinejad.17,000,000 votes off him are almost a big NO to mulla's regime,because ppl know that he will destroy regime with his fashist ideas!
here we think there was no regime named islamic republic after 2007!(or maybe 2006!)
about 12 Imam Idea.
I am a shia and one of major belives of shia is that 12 Imam idea.
accourding to this Imam Mahdi (last Imam) will return with christ (his best friend ) and they will make a better world.
Shia is the only islamic Ideology that beleives in return of christ.
But I agree that ahmadi nead may be antichrist.
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Posted - Dec 28 2005 : 10:19:44 PM
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jenbar1963
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Posted - Dec 29 2005 : 07:20:55 AM
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One only needs to remember that the previous world wars have all started in northern europe (assassination of ferdinand WW1, german invasion of poland WW2). If he allies with Russia or another northern european state, then heaven help us.
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mm2001
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Posted - Dec 29 2005 : 9:06:45 PM
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Then Heaven help us!!
Iran and Russia have a mutual defence pact and have had one for several years!
Either Ahamadinejad and Putin together make the Third Antichrist of our time OR Ahmadinejad and Putin's successor in 2008 (Zhirinovsky? Zuygonov? Someone we have not heard of yet?)
But remember the "Vladimir prophecy" (quoted here from my web site):
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The "Vladimir Prophecy"
A second installment of a popular documentary series, Ancient Prophecies, narrated by David McCallum, aired in 1995. One of the segments focused on a Ukrainian man who was imprisoned in Siberia by the Soviet government for being a Catholic. His name was Josup Terelya who now lives in Toronto, Canada. He was purportedly thrown into a cell where the temperature was well below zero by guards expecting him to freeze to death.
He saw a light bulb hanging on the ceiling. He moved his hands near the bulb in a futile attempt to warm them. Suddenly the room glowed with light, he fell back upon his cot, and before him appeared the Virgin Mary. Miraculously, through her intercession, he survived. Dumbfounded guards, expecting to find him dead, found him alive and well and led him out of the cell. It would be another twenty years before he would be given his freedom.
While in the cell, the Virgin Mary showed him visions of the future.
This is the prophecy as best as I can remember it, very loosely paraphrased (I used to have this on videotape, but the tape was ruined several years ago):
"The Soviet Union will cease to be. Russia will be free of communism. But the day will come when it will fall under a dictatorship. The people will rally around one man. 'Vladimir' will be his name."
At this point in the presentation, people are seen holding up placards bearing the image of Vladimir Zhirinovsky. However, the Ukrainian prisoner never mentions Vladimir's last name.
The prophecy continues:
"There will be a great flame, a fire, in southern Russia, and Vladimir will stir up the people of Russia to go to war against Israel."
Could this "great flame" that erupts in southern Russia be Chechnya ... or is it the southern Caucasus, the former Soviet republic of Georgia and perhaps Armenia?
He then describes a map he is shown of Russia and all of the former Soviet Union and China.
"Fires will break out everywhere, the whole of Russia will burn, the whole of China in flames."
Apparently a future nuclear war between Russia and China or Russia, China, and the United States. How long after the advent of "Vladimir" is not clear.
What is clear is that there are two Vladimirs in Russia today. One, Vladimir Putin, is the president and still relatively popular among Russians (although this may one day change). He has appealed to their sense of patriotism by waging a brutal war against a small people, murdering their children and women, detaining all men age 10 to 60, nearly obliterating the million-strong Chechen nation from the map. He may have revealed himself to be the "great King of terror" that Nostradamus prophesied would come in 1999 and seven months (Julian reckoning) by launching a terrible air war "from the sky."
He is already a dictator. Unchallenged, he will become more so because war and espionage is all he knows.
However, what if he does not hold for much longer? -- what if Putin becomes unpopular and people look once again toward their ruined economy?
If there is a popular revolt against Putin, Gennady Zyuganov will likely be at the helm. Putin will be overthrown. Zyugonov will rule by decree.
At that time, the fierce ultranationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky will become the second most popular man in Russia. And if the people regret their return to communism -- what then? It is unlikely that people will stand very long for having their freedoms stripped away. Russia will be ripe for yet another revolution.
Then Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the man in the shadows like Hitler was in the shadows of Germany biding his time for ten years: He becomes dictator.
Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Which shall it be? Does it even matter?
"Vladimir will stir up the people of Russia to go to war against Israel."
Third World War. Nuclear holocaust. Watch these men -- both of them.
Imagine. Just imagine ... A powerful military alliance already exists between Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran and this terrible nation ruled, or to be ruled, by Vladimir Antichrist! (whichever Vladimir he turns out to be).
An axis between the Antichrist of the North and the Antichrist of the South! Modern manifestations of the King of the Persian empire (which once included Iran and part of Iraq among other territories) and the King of the Median empire (which once included northern Iraq, parts of Syria and Turkey, all of Transcaucasia, and a part of Russia).
Abandon all hope ...
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
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mm2001
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Posted - Dec 29 2005 : 9:35:42 PM
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Watcher,
I don't believe that Mabus neccessarily = Third Antichrist. It is possible, but need not be the case.
All he has to be is someone whose death in some way heralds, marks, or causes the beginning of terrible widespread destruction.
He could be someone like Archduke Ferdinand whose murder in Sarajevo in 1914 triggered World War I.
Remember the Alois Irlmaier prophecy: a third high-ranked man is murdered in the Balkans or Czechoslovakia. This triggers a Russian/Eastern blitzkrieg of Europe. World War III spreads from the Middle East and the former Soviet Union to the former Warsaw Pact and Western and Central Europe, in other words.
What if this third high-ranked man who is murdered is Serbian Deputy Prime Minister Miroljub Labus or a future President Labus??
What if Labus is Mabus??
THis would unleash the most horrible stage of World War III according to many prophecies.
He could also be an important "prize" the US is out to kill: someone evil yet not necessarily a head of state. What will the strategic situation in Iraq, Iran, and Syria be at the exact time the USA finally should succeed in killing terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi?
Will Musab al-Zaraqawi's death be followed by the nuking of Damascus and the rest of Syria??
Another terrible Mabus scenario.
And neither of these guys have to be the Third Antichrist for great horror and destruction to follow their deaths.
But always bear in mind: Mabus and The Comet are linked.
There must be a spectacular comet (or comet-like object) visible in the sky that everyone in the northern hemisphere can see (from the vantage point of France, Nostradamus' home) when Mabus dies.
At this time, no major comet (or comet-like object) is visible. I don't expect we will see one until at least October 2007.
The comet may be Planet X, Nibiru, Marduk, Wormwood, etc. But if it is, according to Nostradamus it will first look like a comet (when Mabus dies) before it appears as a burning star and, later, a ball of fire.
"Cast a cold eye
On life, on death,
Horseman, pass by!"
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Conor
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Posted - Jan 03 2006 : 06:20:08 AM
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| I too believe you Mike, unless this man is brought from power very soon I fear that war will be soon coming. Bush has his eyes set on controlling the middle east, and while Israel seems to be stabilising I fear it could be the calm before the storm for them and Israel will face a great war against it, Iran seems to be where it will come from. It all looks very very grim indeed! |
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Posted - Jan 04 2006 : 2:49:47 PM
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coner,
How close to war do you think we are because something tells me we are right around the corner and the scary part is it will only be a small step in a greater larger picture.
The way I see it we're all pawns being set up in a way thats going to effect this entire planet. There are certain things happening in this world that Nostradamus perdicted would happen. As soon as the pieces are finally in place its check mate. |
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Conor
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Posted - Jan 05 2006 : 08:26:25 AM
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To be honest I truly cant say, however I do think Nostradamus didnt provide us with specific dates just generalities, Mikes system based on Nostradamus is far more accurate.
The one thing I will say I actually think 9/11 altered the way the world was going and possibly delayed the third world war by igniting the war on terror and then the 2nd gulf war. I think that this war in Iraq too has blunted the possibility of the 3rd world war slightly. Perhaps it wont be as long or as severe as was prophecised. Also the last year was so tumultuous that many things happened that werent expected - so I think that we could be living in borrowed time or perhaps we wont see a third world war at all and instead we will just have an extremely long period of international terrorism. |
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Posted - Jan 05 2006 : 6:01:14 PM
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coner,
What is th mike system? |
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jenbar1963
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Posted - Jan 06 2006 : 04:06:15 AM
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And now Ariel Sharoon is in a drug induced coma, not expecting to survive. Any change of peace in the middle east has gone. One can only wait now. It is no longer a matter of if, but when.
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Conor
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Posted - Jan 06 2006 : 05:43:12 AM
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Mikes system is the Base 7 Numeration System for working out important dates, check the homepage and you can see all about it.
Yes I too am saddened by Sharons illness, he was such a hardliner in the 80’s and now that he has decided to get behind peace whole heartedly he was doing steady progressive work. And now this happened. I just hope that his work is continued on in the same steady way he was!
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